The thing I feel luckiest with is the group of people that Im around. You just add a little smile. Louis Black has amazing timing. Sometimes you think I get on stage and Im so honest, and Im these things, and it may seem like youre just bullshitting. ), South Georgia & South Sandwich Islands (GBP ). Tim Ferriss: Thats a Plan B. Mentally, you had de-risked it for yourself, in a way. I just found a place, told my parents. But LA, it really is the best and you want to be around the best. Like right after this, Ill go meet up with him and well go write and we enjoy it. For this special, once all these thoughts were a cohesive set, we recorded it. It was very much like an exercise. It really is the most cinematic looking special Ive seen. K), Netherlands (EUR I know thats a thing I shouldnt say, but I really havent. A lot of thoughtsno matter how personal or vulnerable or harsh or optimistic or sociopathic or whateverall discussed in a really honest way. Tim Ferriss: When you hear the word successful, to you who comes to mind? Jerrod Carmichael: Yes. Chris Rock man, its hard. I think thats really good [Laughs]. And I got a phone call from my man, Stephen HillHe said, Im producing the 80th Golden Globes and it would be an honor if you would agree to join as the host. And I was like, Whoa. You know? Jerrod Carmichael: The people that matter realize that all that you should focus on is the work. The Tim Ferriss Show is one of the most popular podcasts in the world with more than 900 million downloads. It doesnt [inaudible]. Id probably do some weird artist stuff. In between specials, he stole the show in Neighbors and its sequel, filmed a Transformers movie, and also wrote, executive produced and starred in NBCs The Carmichael Show, which is currently shooting its third season. Lisa was saying were going to go dancing, and I was like, really? Tim Ferriss: Is this in the original room? 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I cant remember what it won. Rothaniel lives and breathes in that simultaneously freeing and discomforting imbalance, that tension between relief and despondency, fear and catharsis. Jerrod Carmichael: Good from great? Im here, truly, because of all of you, he said. Dont get me wrong; we like new experiences and we like having fun. Jerrod Carmichael: Everyones making it up. It was constant validation. Tim Ferriss: How did you choose The Sellout? You know what I like about that book? Jerrod Carmichael: Which truthfully, I would have been cool with for a little while. I went up first at the open mike. ), Bosnia & Herzegovina (BAM Tim Ferriss: I think you probably didnt expect me to bring that up in the podcast but I had to. So you cant run from it. Congrats to them, whatever, sure. But Bryan and Dov bought me a car. Tim Ferriss: You didnt bring your over the shoulder VHS recorder? Tim Ferriss: What other routines do you have that are important to you, or things you repeat? Dr. Seuss has a great quote: The people who dont mind dont matter, and the people who matter dont mind.. We are all familiar with observational and conversational humor, but yours feels more investigational, as if youre working out ideas as they come to you on stage. Jerrod Carmichael: Youre gonna just move to Los Angeles to do comedy? Because this is someone who youre gong to work with a lot; youre going to have a lot of interactions with. Jerrod Carmichael: Ill write down general and specific things. Or is it all over the place? And only you know you so sometimes its good; its a good thing. Tim Ferriss: What helps you to do that? Tim Ferriss: Hes also a very atypical YouTube star in the sense that its the Shaytards, its Shay and his family, a bunch of kids in Utah. Doing film, Im watching ever film, especially current because you want to know where you fit in in history and you want to know where you fit in in the current landscape. He had seen me, and he and Nick Solar and Seth would all be involved in hiring me. F or all of its controversyracial, financial, ethical, and morethe Hollywood Foreign Press Association made one smart recent decision: to hire Jerrod Carmichael as the host of the 80th Annual Golden Globes on Tuesday night. I really do trust that if Im honest in the moment if Im really honest with what I do time will record that honesty in my favor. We have a wooden horse to the left of us. You want to make sure the intention is showing and sometimes it doesnt. Yeah, in a business sense; a sense of realizing that it is an industry. ), Papua New Guinea (PGK Fr), Hong Kong SAR (HKD $), Central African Republic (XAF If my comedy has a style or an intention behind it, its that eighth grade class; me against everyone else in the class. I like that. Jerrod Carmichael: I dont know where that came from. You bring friends, theyre familiar with you; youre familiar with them. Hey, not bad. Tim Ferriss: Let me ask you maybe a strange question. Jerrod Carmichael: Maintain a certain amount of exclusivity for yourself. As he did on The Carmichael Show and in Rothaniel, Carmichael bucked expectations by attacking the gig of Golden Globes host his wayand in with full candor about his own opinions on racism, the industry, and life in general. There were so many characters. The last point he said was he has an eight-foot penis. Ill let the silence do the work on this one. A lot of times comedians get frustrated with certain things but thats part of any business; understanding business to a certain extent is really important. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, spread it out, absolutely. 3,375, This story has been shared 2,960 times. Erik AbrissMar 10, 2017. Tim is an author of 5 #1 NYT/WSJ bestsellers, investor (FB, Uber, Twitter, 50+ more), and host of The Tim Ferriss Show podcast (400M+ downloads). Ill go back to that; Ill absolutely go back. It was one of the nicest things. Jerrod Carmichael: Someone will be like, No, I was doing face at the top of the well for 30 years! Well find out its in the Tao Te Ching. How did that happen? But Ive come to appreciate things that I always disregarded because I heard them to often. We talk about how he gets so much done. Tim Ferriss: This has been a lot of fun, man. And if you visit him on social media right now, he has zero posts on Twitter, on Instagram @jerrodcarmichael, and 2017 is going to be his biggest year yet. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, Im around. You know, like there was a thing that was online, or me just talking about Chic-fil-A. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, exactly. Jerrod Carmichael: An insane amount of helicopters. Jerrod Carmichael: In North Carolina, yeah. Jerrod Carmichael: If Im gonna be in the rain, Im gonna be in the rain. Tim Ferriss: Did you write it down once and then it was embedded for years? Does that mean you watch a movie? Tim Ferriss: If you had to chose three comedians of any type to combine into one super comedian for yourself right now, who comes to mind and why would you pick them? Tim Ferriss: Alright, guys. Or can you remember a point at any time in your life when you had a particularly dark period or a lot of self doubt? Nobody was in the audience. Please enjoy this transcript of my interview with comedian Jerrod Carmichael. Tim Ferriss: It does. Tim Ferriss: Yeah, sure. He has incredible energy. I know that question is tired, but the discussion surrounding political correctness cant seem to go away. Tim Ferriss: Your onstage persona seems, and maybe this will sound strange, a little darker than your in real life persona. Carmichael joked, I wont say they were a racist organization, but they didnt have a single Black member until George Floyd died. Tim Ferriss: Were sitting in an outdoor garden with wooden tables with our pomegranate tea, sparkling water and blueberries. I thought I was going to be kicked out of the cabin because I laughed so much. More than I think about legacy, I think about right now and what Im doing and is it real. And this is ten seconds after hearing the joke! One of my best friends, Ari, we both have such small social lives; virtually nonexistent social lives that it just works. 2,960, This story has been shared 2,641 times. Jerrod Carmichael: It is very exciting. I was leaving dinner, and I was like oh, Im just going to go on a walk. It was over a series of conversations that we had where we discussed the state of comedy and comedy specials over a couple of yearsjust us talking about the things that we wanted to see and the specific tone. My emotional response; its like capture it. I like to explore and search for the thoughts that I may have that a lot of times people may want to suppress or push asideI just like to explore them and talk about it on stage. Im here because Im Black.. ), Greenland (DKK Tim Ferriss: Right, the distractions of life. Again, I like focusing on things that matter. You just kind of know. ), St. Vincent & Grenadines (XCD $), Trinidad & Tobago (TTD I literally was like driving around repeating sentences from the book just over and over. Jerrod Carmichael: Nothing else I guess its good; there are no unanswered questions in that title. Thats specifically for what I was doing, and Im sure it applies to other things, too. Jerrod Carmichael: Clothes are fun. But also you mentioned something earlier, which was the people who matter dont mind. Kwami Nayeri had me read the Autobiography of Malcolm X, start reading The New York Times and the local newspaper, and taking in all this information and learning and kind of discovering myself. I was an editor on the New York Times's arts desk at the time, and we were there to chat for a profile pegged to his new HBO special Home Videos, a loose, sort of experimental collection of vignettes in which he filmed intimate, unscripted conversations with the black women and girls in his family. If youre gonna do it. But Im trying to think; the first time we met was on set at Neighbors. 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Where can people find you, what youre up to, what can they check out, where should they start; anything you want to tell them? Tim Ferriss: They of course have the power to say no, right? Tim Ferriss: Goals and thoughts. "It's a thing I said to my mom That was it. I loved it; I loved doing comedy so I would have just gone to New York and just stayed there. And dont get me wrong, because I analyze everything and I pick on everything. 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When Im on there and I see what some of my friends are doing, I think its incredible but its just not the way I think. (CNN) Jerrod Carmichael's latest stand-up special might be his most revelatory yet. The acclaimed comedian comes out as gay in his new HBO special, "Rothaniel," a few years after he first referenced relationships with men in a previous film for HBO. (CNN shares parent company WarnerMedia with the network.) Like seeking any shortcut or easy answer is always a mistake. Tim Ferriss: Totally. I would have just gone to New York and done the exact, same thing that Im doing here. This first appeared in NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour newsletter. Jerrod Carmichael: Hey, not to toot my own horn but I am fucking amazing at it. Im going to sneak it into the show notes for people interested. You know, you grow up in a neighborhood like that, or the hood, or whatever you call it and its so many characters. Its really fun. And then Ill ask you where people can find you and everything youre up to. Carmichael then revealed, I took this job assuming they hadnt changed at all. And who gives a fuck? Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, a spectator. Jerrod Carmichael: Honesty; they are themselves. Sit in silence. Carmichael released a statement to Deadline today through his publicist. Jerrod Carmichael: He never took you dancing? Its something that kind of clicks and you say oh, okay, this. For the sake of clarity, media outlets are permitted to use photos of Tim Ferriss from the media room on tim.blog or (obviously) license photos of Tim Ferriss from Getty Images, etc. You want to center yourself first before jumping in. Tim Ferriss: Yeah, there are a lot of greats out there. For the sake of clarity, media outlets with advertising models are permitted to use excerpts from the transcript per the above. Where do you think that comes from? Its very atypical in that sense. Jerrod Carmichael: We had fun. I used to walk around all the time. So its important to be informed. It articulated it in such a great way that I was like everybody, religious, not religious; its really good about discovering self, about answers being within. Tim Ferriss: Yeah, youre trying to dissect whats happening; how its composed. Find out where you can contribute because its not always through work. Tim Ferriss: You can de-fuck the script later. Tim Ferriss: It was great. Tim Ferriss: Ive never met Dov; also one of my favorites. So this guy is going nowhere as up, as far as I can tell. LOGIN Subscribe for $1. I should have never gone. For me, it doesnt contribute to my life in a meaningful way so I dont do it. Do you ever think about your legacy or the mark you want to leave in the comedy world? But I recommend everybody check it out. I just remember that line. I was really blessed to be around a lot of creative minds, like people who were just like down and really creative and really excited about just jumping into characters and doing things. Jerrod Carmichael: Absolutely. I enjoyed my childhood a lot. Hes a sweetheart of a guy. Everything was challenged; we questioned everything. She would tell me so even while feeding her children. You either run from it or accept it. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. ), French Polynesia (XPF Jerrod Carmichael: Bryan Callen and Dov Davidoff bought me a car. Dr. Seuss has got it! What is this kid doing? So my brother, me, my mom, and a lot of times just you know I liked the neighborhood. I like biographies. My friend Ben and me, we competed on everything. Jerrod Carmichael had a pitch for Tom Cruise and Church of Scientology in one of his Golden Globes jokes. Tim Ferriss: People were reinforcing that. I dont know when hes gonna go dancing again. It may take some time. Wearing a red shirt and perched on a chair for the entire performance, he appears looser and more vulnerable, his lanky arms more expressive and limber. Jerrod Carmichael: I wanted it invasive, I wanted it emotionally honest. All transcripts from The Tim Ferriss Show, my interview with comedian Jerrod Carmichael. If Im sitting with someone and the deal theyre pitching sounds great but I just feel off around them, I pay more attention to that now. Maybe loitering outside of a movie theater; probably walking around LA or New York. Jerrod Carmichael: You know, Bryan Callen bought me my first car in LA. I dont know why this stands out so much but he wanted to have a debate. Transcripts may contain a few typoswith some episodes lasting 2+ hours, its difficult to catch some minor errors. Thats why I like reading biographies. Its funny but its not the way just the guy at your job is funny; its different. And she pushed me really hard to do it. Mort Sahl checked his notes. $), British Virgin Islands (USD It is arguably the funniest stand-up special Ive seen in many, many years, and its the reason I initially reached out to have Jerrod on the podcast. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, exactly because you can put all that energy towards creating, thinking, figuring things out. And logically if you look at history, youll see the things that fall out. Is that why you avoid social media or do you think thats just a symptom of where were at right now as a culture? Jerrod Carmichael: Its people; were all just people. You go into a nightclub and there are a lot of good looking people hanging out. Please do not put your URL in the comment text and please use your PERSONAL name or initials and not your business name, as the latter comes off like spam. I just taped another special and same thing. Jerrod Carmichael: Its fun. I was like, I want information. Jerrod Carmichael: I thought it was pretty milky, right? Oh man, great question. Im really happy. But it seems like neither of us can work to jazz. I actually prefer the realer the conversation, the better; small talk is obviously boring and you dont want to get caught up in that type of thing. They had many, many different revisions of this script which, as I understand it. Jerrod Carmichael: Its both emotional and logical to me. I always refuse that. I had this guy Argus Hamilton, just like this legend of the Comedy Store and of the same It just felt kind of like a Saturday and were doing spots, and I wanted to just capture it; me working on material. I did a show and I told her, youve got to do standup again. Or how do you think? And Im not sure thats true of all clichs; I dont think it is. Oh, that was fun. Tim Ferriss: What is bad advice that is given out frequently in your world? I kind of have a similar demeanor. You know, like everything, like the type of cigarette they smoked; every detail is really important to them. [Laughs] She hated it. If Im not working, I get bored. I didnt think it was going to be that long but it was like two hours in the rain, with the hood off. But New York LA, you know, really New York for just repetitions sake. K), Philippines (PHP To me, someone who'd followed his career pretty closely up to that point (I'm a huge fan of his criminally underseen sitcom The Carmichael Show, as well as his first two HBO stand up specials Love At the Store and 8), this was kind of a bombshell reveal: Until then, Carmichael had only ever publicly discussed his romantic life and sexuality in terms of women he'd dated. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah. 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