It is sometimes quite difficult to know how to answer you because of the way in which you misrepresent what is being said. Each person will answer to God for themselves. MacArthur, 83, was preaching Sunday service earlier this week when he. He argued at the time that such mandates violated constitutionally protected religious liberties. by RELEVANT. The entire message was based around how God can meet all MY needs. Reiterating his stance on 1 Timothy 2:12, he went on to state, "There is no case that can be made biblically for a woman preacher. If I was a young Christian I know I could have easily been swept along with this stuff it seems such an attractive message, and he is such an attractive man. It was a fantastic balance of biblical theology and Christ centered worship. Its also a nasty wee trick to complain of someone remarks as being provocative, misleading and snide. It appears this lawsuit is going in our favor, MacArthur said Sunday. What am I gonna do? And there are some well-liked denominations and networks of churches on Facebook pages too: john macarthur on elevation church. So First Dallas Baptist is an acceptable mega church but the Village church isnt? They make their workers and volunteers sign a confidentiality arrangement that they will not disclose anything about the finances of the church, or they will be sued. I have not misrepresented what you said. I made no comment on how Matt Chandler lives as a Christian.you didyou declared I was somewhat alarmed by the endorsement of Matt Chandler as a good example of how the gospel should be preached and lived.. [47] In August 2021, MacArthur told congregants that "many people" had contracted COVID-19 while it "went through" the church in December 2020 and January 2021, including both him and his wife. Please do not excuse sin and blasphemy. It all depends how you measure success! John MacArthur is the pastor-teacher of Grace Community Church, as well as an author, conference speaker, chancellor of The Master's University and Seminary, and featured teacher with the Grace to You media ministry. Didnt appreciate the joking about drug use. Some are good, some are bad. John MacArthur. The Church of England's compromise on same-sex relationships is disastrous for everyone. "[30] MacArthur holds to the dispensationalist school of premillennialism, a pre-tribulational Rapture of the Church, and a literal Millennium. I Gotta Reply This Is So Pathetic, First Of All As A Leader In Christ Steven Furtrick Is A Good Pastor And If You Really Heard His Message ,He Is A Man Of God And He Only Speaks The Truth You That Are Workers Of Iniquity Be Sure That Youre Sins Will Find You Out Second Of All How In The Hell You Gonna Sit Here And Judge A Man Of God ..I Believe God Called This Man To Build His ( God) House And Get The population Ready For Whats About To ComeAnd Its Far More Then Noah And A Flood.If There Were Many Pastors Like Steven Furtrick In This World There Wouldnt Be So Much Hate And Crime And Killing Drugs Etc News People Why Dont You Start Digging In The People That Are Really committing crimes Stop Digging In Something You Know Nothing About Cause If You Really Knew How God Works . Sadly, however, there are also times when you use it to bully, abuse and browbeat. I repeat again that I am aware of the failings of the mega church system and celebrity pastors. 4) Wrong on all counts. To be really honest, I find it very difficult to muster up any Christian love for you when you respond to people in this way, though I do recognise that this is something I need Gods help with and forgiveness for. Its not the first time that youve responded aggressively when a pastor that you hold in such high regard is questioned. 2. Chandler only eventually took action as the wheels were about to fall off the Mars Hill bus and, sadly, only when great damage had already been done to the body of Christ. To be sure he writes from a certain perspective, as you do, but he presented his case quite calmly using documented and verifiable evidence. . (Ezek. In John MacArthur's book, "The Truth War" he writes that " Churches today are filled with people like that. Btw, yes Im a pastor of a tiny church and I have worked multiple jobs all 20 years I have been at the church to make ends meet. David, you seem so eager to fire off your stock answers and insults that it sometimes appears that you havent properly read the comments first. Excellent post! Why is that disgraceful and totally unwarranted? 2) There are inherent dangers in mega churches which some of your other contributors have highlighted. The staff expected to have their concerns heard andconsidered. Doubtless it was intended as a joke but I dont think taking a salary of millions more than is necessary to live, work and provide for ones family, is a joke especially when there are hungry children, and many hungry for the Word, who do not receive it because of lack of money. I am intrigued as to why you think my challenge to the claim is disgraceful and totally unwarranted, but you dont think the claim itself is? All rights reserved. Its a sad fact that this nonsense is already here in Scotland supported by the new breed of self appointed apostles and prophets. Despite the considerable influence that they all had, they chose instead to publically endorse him. Last year, when far-reaching government restrictions were put in place, the megachurch continued holding indoor worship services despite bans on such gatherings. I think putting Chandler in the same category as Furtick is disgraceful and totally unwarranted and thus simply ask G White to justify that. You were rightthat was not very mature. John MacArthur, the pastor of California's Grace Community Church, delivers a sermon to his congregation, January 2021. I think about it this way would I rather sell a million copies of my books with little fruit, or sell a few hundred of each and yet have those few hundred profoundly affect and change the lives of many? During the event, MacArthur accused the Southern Baptist Convention of . My own view is that he didnt handle it particularly well even when forced to act. In fact it was so bad most people assumed it was just mockers cutting and pasting to make it look ridiculous yet it turns out that this was Elevation Churches own video and it was liked by Furtick! To ignore its message is to snub that which the Holy Spirit inspired. ", Grace Community Church parishioners make their way to Sunday service in Sun Valley on Sept. 13, 2020. I will reply to them briefly. I note you dont answer my questions about Dallas Baptist Church. Its wrong to mock and you should try to win them over without mockery. Why do you think that that was disgraceful etc but G Whites bracketing of Furtick with Chandler was not? Whatever its founding intentions, we conclude that the Proclamation Trust is now a compromised organisation committed to the flawed teachings and practices of New Calvinism. God is everywhereeven in the news. Follow TheWeeFlea.com on WordPress.com The problem: Elevation Church, led by Steven Furtick, suggests that an invitation to be baptized will be more effective if 15 volunteers are the first to move when the invitation is given. I know in theory you agree with He must increase, I must decrease as do I. How easily the lure of money and outward success can lead a good man astray, and sadly take with him many people. Why shouldnt he? You had already given your opinion about it before you had read it so you are being consistent at least. Im sure with a church of such a size these issues are found amongst some, and appropriate discipline and loving correction are needed. "In a recent sermon given by Steven Furtick of Elevation Church around Christmas 2016, Furtick continues to demonstrate that John Macarthur is right in his assessment that Furtick is indeed 'unqualified to be a pastor by not . Do you still endorse it? From 20052015, MacArthur made about $3.4 million in compensation from GTY and TMUS, for an average of about $320,000/year. [4], The grandson of Canadian Anglican minister Harry MacArthur (died 1950) and son of Baptist radio preacher Jack MacArthur (born in Calgary, Canada)[5] and Irene Dockendorf, MacArthur was born in Los Angeles. Because Elevation Church certainly dont want to. Elevation Church were accused of getting volunteers to come forward during the spontaneous baptism services, in order to encourage others to get up out of their seats. "Just so you know, Pastor John had a bug this week and preached our first hour but asked if he might be able to take a break for the second hour. Your lack of apology (at very least regarding your amazon remarks) has only served to highlight the arrogance and childishness that you displayed in your replies. Your remarks were and continue to be misrepresentative, deceitful and sly. 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It is indeed a blessto have a fellowship with God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and indeed the Lord reigns. End of Discussion. Some might expect be to be critical of the entertainment Hillsong style worship and the whole professional stage go that goes along with it. All I would say is that there was no irrational, ranting, preaching anywhere in it. Los Angeles County had sued the church and its pastor, John MacArthur, last August after officials said he had he opened the church and held a large indoor worship service with unmasked attendees . Googling information about his ministry will provide a number of discussions of his content. [11] From 1966 to 1969, MacArthur was hired as the faculty representative for Talbot Theological Seminary. The trouble is that these churches are so massive and wealthy that they can afford to send their pastors all over the world, exporting their dodgy theology and even dodgier ecclesiology. No-one can find out what Pastor Stephen is paid, although it is decided by a committee of out of town pastors/advisors (who are probably on the same arrangement). I dont do stock answers. G White had stated that Matt Chandler was not a good example of teaching or living and then went on to pass on gossip about a particular discipline case in the Village Church. Your email address will not be published. Im afraid that the influence of the US mega churches such as Elevation is felt throughout the world. This following sermon was full of what can only be called psychobabble. This is another attempt to pick a fight with another straw man. Market data provided by Factset. (function(d){var f = d.getElementsByTagName('SCRIPT')[0], p = d.createElement('SCRIPT');p.type = 'text/javascript';p.async = true;p.src = '//widgets.wp.com/platform.js';f.parentNode.insertBefore(p,f);}(document)); on Elevation Church The Good, The Bad and the Ugly. I love the gospel, and I love the Lords people from whatever background, and I want to see Christ glorified throughout the world. http://religionnews.com/2016/05/11/why-pastor-steven-furtick-skirts-scandalous-questions/. You equate him with the false teaching of Furtick and Elevation Church. Have mercy! Were deeply grateful for that. If I were like that I would have to discount the Church at Pentecost! But you came on to my blog and posted something which is typical of the new legalists and endorsed a book which attacks gospel preachers such as Keller, Piper and the Proc Trust. Pastor John MacArthur on Sunday commended GraceLife Church in Alberta, Canada, which is meeting in secret after the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) barricaded their building behind three layers of chain link fence. I d not think there is any man alive especially a young man who could cope with this degree of adulation and not have his head explode with pride. The great thing about the Village Church is that they recognised that they had not handled it well and apologised. Williams has more than misgivings about neo-Calvinism (as he calls it to call Piper, Keller and the Proclamation Trust neo-Calvinists is just silly). From an economic standpoint, thats a no brainer. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to. These John MacArthur reckless faith quotes will make your faith stronger. This photo posted to Twitter by Phil Johnson shows a full sanctuary at Grace Church on Sunday, July 26, 2020. The southern baptist convention of which he has been a part has distanced themselves from his ministry in the past year. | Screenshot: YouTube/Grace to You Prominent pastor and theologian John MacArthur has come under fire after a video resurfaced of him taking issue with the idea of "religious freedom," with some Christian speakers debating whether his comments were taken out of context. There is nothing that makes me believe in God and the Gospel more than the church in all its beauty, and there is nothing makes me doubt more than the church in all its ugliness. This has become an increasing generational divide, where self help and selfishness mixed with weird legalism has been manufactured, packaged, and sold as faith. PS Im a huge Chandler fan over here. I agree that the greatest threat to the church comes from false teachingas you will know if you read this blog. You Wouldnt Be Dashing Him And Family And God House Stop being jealous Stop Counting The Heads In The Church And Start Counting Youre Blessing We Still Have A universe To Stand On And spreading the message good God And Getting People Ready For Whats About To Come..Btw Are You Ready For When God Comes? There is nothing more basic than these. So I hoped and prayed that this would not become another crash and burn mega church story. Cho resigned the next day. Jenna Ellis,the churchs attorney,tweeted about the settlement. Why do you think I should apologise for my Amazon remarks (which were simply that I could only find it on my Amazon feed at 30)? It is still priced as such on my Amazon feed.thankfully someone pointed me to another link which I have now used to buy the book for a couple of pounds on Kindle. The biggest threat to the church comes not from fundamentalist atheists or those of another religion, it comes from within. Thats hypocrisy, and no, that doesnt constitute name calling. Its a nasty wee trick to try and shut someone up by complaining that they always try and have the last word if they reply then of course you are proved right and can feel self-justified. Well, given that many years ago I encouraged one of our young people to complete his studies at Spurgeons College and accept an internship at First Dallas Baptist, it would have to be that one. Fox News Flash top headlines are here. They drift from church to church. Los Angeles County sued the church over its refusal to close down, and the church counter-sued, claiming that the County was violating rights to freedom of religion. John MacArthur was able to summarize Furtick as a minister with one word: unqualified. The church that is spending $130 million on redoing its downtown campus? Stay informed with the latest from CBN News delivered to your inbox. But cant we all recognize how difficult we find that? MacArthur was also given an honorary degree from Talbot Theological Seminary (Doctor of Divinity, 1977) and from Grace Graduate School (1976). But like John Flavel I regard as a pretty close second the threat of disunity in the body of Christ not least that caused by those who go around unjustly and wrongly accusing others of false teaching. Surely there are members in the congregations of the mega churches who intend to be sincere, and big doesnt have to be bad. Perhaps then a mature and open discussion could then take place. Do they not see the danger of this? I dont agree that its always wrong to mock (otherwise Elijah, Paul and Jesus were wrong), and indeed sometimes mockery has its place. I know the drill. Im not rich at all but Im also not jealous of someone who has far more people and more money. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. If not why do you feel in a position to judge? Radio Scotland Abortion Debate Edited Highlights, https://theweeflea.com/2020/04/22/return-to-elevation/), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3BN1lStbIw, http://thewartburgwatch.com/?s=Matt+chandler&x=0&y=0, http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Calvinists-ES-Williams/dp/1908919329/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vvjMUrPUfC4&app=desktop, https://mrayton.wordpress.com/tag/john-macarthur/, Elevation Church The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, Most Read Wee Flea Articles in 2017 THE BLOG OF DAVID ROBERTSON. Cho brought letters to the elders and MacArthur who ultimately told him he needed to "walk back" his findings if he wanted to remain an elder. It happens. Lumping every mega church together is not a healthy thing to do. Required fields are marked *. To this end he cites the biblical passage of 1 Timothy 2:11-12. Use the Church Finder to locate churches with TMS alumni around the world. Where is the blessed self-forgetfulness? "We are not heard for our many words, but for the cry of our hearts." Could you tell me the difference? [36] Speaking about evolutionary theory, he writes that Christians "ought to expose such lies for what they are and oppose them vigorously." The elders had publicly disciplined a woman for refusing . It just looks weird. Give me one example of Kellers irreverence? 3. MacArthur responded "unqualified" and proceeded to argue that Furtick, pastor of Elevation Church, was not qualified, by Biblical standards, to be a pastor. People make millions selling sex, playing sports and funny you never hear the news say that is wrong. It never occurs to me for a second to not fulfill it. And this is my prayerful response (after sleeping on it!) 2) Its also not advisable as someone who professes to be a Christian and follow Christ to swear. It demonstrates a mindset that says this is MY church. LOS ANGELES PASTOR JOHN MACARTHUR PUBLICLY REBUKES GAVIN NEWSOM FOR 'DIABOLICAL' POLICIES, INVOKING JESUS, Pastor John MacArthur preaches at Grace Community Church in Los Angeles. Thanks again, Your email address will not be published. [46][47] He stated that there was a deadlier virus killing peoplethe virus of sinleading many to eternal death, in contrast to physical death. Their influence has been growing and recently . "Many of you are praying for Pastor Johns health due to his absence from the pulpit during the second service. Join Transformation church Sunday service at 11AM with Michael Todd, Live Stream (April-24-2022). He picked out three words from Joshua 10, 12 (Sun stand still) and turned them into a doctrine, and he peppered his performance with occasional biblical quotes to back it up. Sitting in a restaurant in Charleston, North Carolina, we were delighted to meet a group of four men, who included a young man from the UK, who was working for a church called Elevation in Charlotte. Staff Pastor Tom Patton delivered the sermon in MacArthurs stead, telling churchgoers the senior minister was resting., ***As the number of voices facing big-tech censorship continues to grow, please sign up forFaithwires daily newsletterand download theCBN News app, to stay up-to-date with the latest news from a distinctly Christian perspective.***. MacArthur is a strong proponent of expository preaching, and has been acknowledged by Christianity Today as one of the most influential preachers of his time. 4, 3-4). John MacArthur is wrong about so much more than keeping women in abusive marriages. He has been the pastor-teacher of Grace . Outwith a Southern US culture it makes no sense and Im not sure that for many of my Southern friends it makes any sense either. And it's thewe call it the Shepherd's Testament; it has a little shepherd's rod on the front. "[7][8] MacArthur followed in his father's footsteps to enroll at the fundamentalist Bob Jones College from 1957 to 1959. I wonder if you thought the same and you told me that in order to come across as thinking that you mentioned one which you thought was ok/good. I'm a bank robber."[41]. Market data provided by Factset. All rights reserved. MacArthur told her she needed to model for her children how to "suffer for Jesus" by enduring David's abuse. Firstly in the teaching. The point you made about Matt Chandler was that he does not live as a Christian (how can you know that? Anyone at least you have persuaded me to read the book I hope it is not a waste of good time! Will you not come and revive us? [48][49], In February 2023 Christianity Today[50] published multiple instances of MacArthur's Grace Community church advising woman to stay with sexually and physically abusive husbands. Someone feels free to go on the internet post serious accusations and then refuse to substantiate them. 4) Its also not a good idea to claim that you know the motives of someone you dont know. Oh and sorry about the ironic and sarky remark about being mature enough for you! yes it was dishonest of you to misrepresent my position as some pastors are untouchable. It was neither juicy nor gossip. David, you use your blog to write some really encouraging and courageous articles for which Im very grateful. Sums it all up. We are committed to delivering quality independent Christian journalism you can trust. The preacher's admission came amid news that Grace Community Church in Sun Valley received an $800,000 settlement from Los Angeles County after defying pandemic-induced health orders. . "[43] Moore responded to this stance by stating on her Twitter account, "I did not surrender to a calling of man when I was 18 years old. Cool name, cool Church I knew that it was one of the fastest growing mega churches in the USA, and had heard a little of its pastor, the dynamic Stephen Furtick. It can only harm true Gospel work, and promote worldliness in the churches. And if you want classic legalism try this Truly converted young believers have an inborn instinct to turn away from their previous worldly music and dress styles. As for the scandal yes I was aware of it. (At this point I am of course aware of the same danger for myself and it certainly does act as a warning to me! And whilst there are some who have a tremendously positive influence, I suspect that the majority do more harm than good. Im not sure that things work in quite the same way in the US. One other thing is that success can get to ones head. MacArthur told church members ahead of his sermon that many people contracted COVID and it probably went through our church in maybe December or January. The pastor said he and his wife, Patricia, enjoyed our own bout with COVID for about a week and a half.. John MacArthur was able to summarize Furtick as a minister with one word: unqualified. [15], Nearly 43 years after beginning in the pulpit of Grace Community, MacArthur completed one of his own life goals,[2] that of preaching through the entire New Testament on June 5, 2011. Your other comments were directly applied to the Megachurch movement I follow the goings-on of the mega church para church neocalvinist movement (call it what you will) in the USA and am frequently astounded by their antics. 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