If they are guilty, then justice should prevail. I don't remember a whole lot about the evening except the drumming, but I could have swore I heard her voice, that's the last, geez it's been, I guess the last drum circle was two and a half weeks ago, and before that it was like six weeks ago. season 1                UAV                season 2, “If it was so obvious and true, that person would already be in custody.”, © 2020 TENDERFOOT TV. And also that Catfish's family had a fairly prestigious background. Maurice: 12:30 Oh God. And I said, "You stay with me for a week. edited 2 years ago I went to his FB page Ctfsh Jhno Keenern . Discussion of the cases profiled in the podcast "Up and Vanished" He can't reason this stuff out like you're doing with these dates and stuff, so he made a mistake. The 11-year-old case remains the largest case file in Georgia history and is still unfolding. Mama wouldn't ..." And I'm like, there's something going on here. According to Calvin, these three individuals encouraged psychological breakdowns shortly after her disappearance. Wayne: 04:24 They found a skull of a female that's the approximate age. Maurice: 12:21 You're in Colorado, right? ... Payne Lindsey On Up And Vanished Season 2 Dont Google. Things didn't seem to look good for this group of friends, if that's even what they are. Angela, who I spoke to earlier on the podcast, told me an interesting story. That's the frustrating part. Payne Lindsey: 05:47 So, it wasn't Kristal? Our cover art is by Trevor Eiler. But I have no doubt if they're cornered that they know how to get out of trouble. Rodney: 03:41 Would you go through the paperwork and see if Kristal had any dental work? Nobody ever mentioned that she was close to 200 pounds, and that definitely confirms it had to be more than one person. Payne Lindsey: 28:44 How do you know that Kristal went there? Rodney: 11:57 Would a criminal profiler be of any assistance? Galadriel: 29:36 And I do know that any time I repost anything about Kristal, Catfish tries to come and friend me on Facebook. Maurice: 12:24 How far is Denver from Crestone? Payne Lindsey: 28:19 Meaning wrecking her car. Dready Brian: 26:21 I know this is not like her for sure. I shared it with Maurice, too, to get his feedback. Rob Ricotta: 24:35 Signed: Lieutenant Dan Warwick, Saguache County, Colorado. Other than I will do anything to help. Catfish says, he told me he did it, I told the CBI and he showed his confession on messenger. That's what they call him." The only places we hung out were at mutual friends houses, and at her house. Season 2 guide for Up and Vanished TV series - see the episodes list with schedule and episode summary. I just got a call from Wayne about an hour ago. I knew it was something from her. When I asked him how she got there, he said that he did not know, and that she just knocked on the door. Calvin told me after Kristal went missing, three people in Crestone seemed to change noticeably. He revealed himself when he made that statement. That's the way it is. 7.6k members in the upandvanished community. Visit us on social media via @upandvanished. Meredith: 36:30 Special thanks to the team at Cadence 13. Catfish says, I heard so many rumors it is interfering. Say what you will about season 2 or neo-hippies, but the fact that Payne was able to get this phone interview with the prime suspect is amazing (or should I say Catfish get the interview with Payne lol). And guess who served the papers on Brian [censored]? This is incriminating. Address is 187 West Silver, Crestone, Colorado. No one else would have known that. Blackmailing him, because they had raped her. And I don't get what's wrong with Saguache Police Department.". Our cover art is by Trevor Isler. Angela: 26:06 They kinda started to become friends again slowly. Galadriel: 31:18 I've even seen posts ... like when they posted that news story ... the Fox 5 News story ... and people were making comments ... Laura posted it, and underneath her post, someone ... some guy got on there. I happen to be friends with for a few years, we were, I lived in the same neighborhood as he did when my fiance and I were breaking up, it was kind of a hard time for me, so I made friends with him and we hung out. Up and Vanished ended a record year with a 17 city national tour, visiting fans in cities, coast to coast and bringing the podcast to life with new stories, media and interactive time with audiences. Dready Brian: 29:24 I brought her here for the first time like two and half years ago when we were living in Gunnison, and I know all their bends, you know, she was with some pretty righteous people, I can pretty safely say that out of that whole group of friends she hung out with, she was probably partying the hardest, it seemed like to me. Calvin: 09:45 He's only been that way since he got into a car accident I'd say about fifteen years ago. Defendant Brian [censored] hangs out at The Bliss Café in Crestone, Colorado. It is such a small world wide web. He also denied that he was protecting Brian, who has never been charged in Reisinger’s disappearance, from legal prosecution, telling Lindsey in an on-camera interview that he hopes Reisinger is “alive and well.” I could have swore she was singing in the chanting, you know the vocable things. But there's this story that keeps coming back that oh she went back to Catfish John's to confront him. Dready Brian and two other men. You need to file a police report and you need to get ready to take your own personal action." And I went home, and I didn't see her that week. They said, "The guy, John ... you know, his name is Catfish John. There are hundreds of mine shafts and crevices and rock formations with deep crevasses. Cindy Santi: 22:22 I said, "What are you gonna do about it? I said, "What day will you be back?" They have major, major power. I need you to call me back when you get this if you would please. And then, she came up one day really upset and crying and said that Catfish had locked her up in his house for a couple days and raped her. But as far as Kristal's story, he gave more convincing details than I had gotten from anyone else so far. May 22, 2014. For Kasha. Up and Vanished will continue to provide updates on this no-longer-cold case as the criminal trial proceeds in 2018. Just not general night terrors, he's actually said that twice. He said that he did not get up to walk her out of the door, and did not know what time it was when she left due to the wine and marijuana. She had to clean his house, too, and that was the last conversation I had with her, but I could have swore she was at the last drum circle. And I just giggle. Have you ever interviewed Catfish? A lot of people are scared of Catfish. I don't think that the suspects in this case are so brilliant that they can go to Google Maps, the terrain, and figure out a new place they've never been to find the perfect place to hide a body. The future of democracy as we know it hinges on the outcome of two Senate races in a state that shocked the nation by turning blue for the first time in nearly three decades. I couldn't tell you a single connection to the drum circle. As time goes on, I'm losing the real image, and this is real. 19 votes, 23 comments. I'm scared of Catfish a little bit. When's he gonna pay you?" I still don't know who she was. In Season 1, Payne tackles his first cold case story, the unsolved disappearance of Georgia high school teacher and former pageant queen, Tara Grinstead. The success of Up and Vanished has led to the creation of many other podcasts from Payne Lindsey, such as Atlanta Monster and Radio Rental We had a bit of a turbulent past you know. “Up and Vanished” Season 2 focuses on Reisinger, a 29-year-old mom who disappeared two years ago after wandering from a drum circle in an isolated Colorado town. Part 2 of 2: After 2 years investigating and bringing weekly updates on the disappearance of Tara Grinstead, Up and Vanished Season 1 is coming to a close. + up and vanished season 2 catfish 22 Oct 2020 Some arthritis sufferers swear by fish body oil, while others extoll the virtues of cat's claw. So, we usually take the x-rays, we send them up to the coroner. Landon: 20:10 Anyway, I don't know for sure, bro. Then, a UAV veteran returns with his opinion on the newest person of interest. Payne Lindsey: 25:51 Shortly after Kristal went missing, an anonymous person had a phone call with Dready Brian. I don't know, he seems, he's a pretty transparent guy, he's a cancer you know, he's not super good at hiding his emotions, and I didn't like, he didn't seem nervous or lying, or if he was he must be a sociopath, but I really didn't get the vibe that's what it was, but obviously something happened that you know. His family has power. I haven't figured out life entirely, yet, but I look at it as one big learning experience. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. He led me to believe that he didn't know of Kristal other than her there in Crestone. Catfish is not a stupid person, he's quite far from stupid. An investigative true crime podcast that takes a deep dive into missing persons cases, exposing the truth through and seeking justice. When you come into full awareness and knowledge of what's happening on the planet, it's big bro. I'm never home. They're basically dosing each other with LSD to basically drive each other insane. Cindy Santi: 22:03 Yeah, he did it on purpose. Rodney: 23:46 She had filed suit against Brian [censored] back in '14, and that never came up until I saw it in her file folder and a box of pictures. See also. And that's exactly what you're doing ... you're doing a lot of legwork. List of people who disappeared; References Last edited on 14 December 2020, at 19:22. The real balance journalistically is what are the liabilities of reporting somebody's identity who may ultimately never be charged or directly be involved. I meet people from all over the country right here. The 11-year-old case remains the largest case file in Georgia history and is still unfolding. I'm like, "What the fuck?". She had no life force. Maurice: 14:28 That statement that he didn't know her well, he was trying to distance himself from anything to do with her. It's funny, because these guys go around talking about this, I guarantee it. She ... like they were friends and stuff but she really didn't like him or like bought his reasons but he definitely was kind of in love with her for a little bit. They walk around fighting shadow people for the rest of their lives, you know, shit like that. Boyfriend: 27:13 I think he might ... definitely, he might have been there, or he might have ... he was staying at my house and shit, dude. Are you gonna be in the area? If you wanna get dosed, that means you're gonna drop some acid, but, I mean, if you're getting dosed, that means somebody's either trying to kill you, drive you insane, or push you to a point to where your mental state can't handle the amount of drugs that you're on. Media Inquiry . And Kristal had been coming and going from up there quite a bit. Season 2 was really hit or miss. She came down here with him to like check out Crestone, and he totals her car. First Name * Last Name * Email * Season 1 . Payne Lindsey: 23:18 While I was talking to Landon, someone else got on the phone. Is I saw a complete psychological breakdown from Landon, Brian and [censored]. And they were sitting at another table there. I vetted the information and I confirmed its authenticity. John said that he fell asleep as she was leaving. Right now, they're working to identify that skull. Season 2 . And once they do that, then we'll be able to tell if it's actually her or not. It's probably in many ways one of the last places in the country you could do that. Lindsey interviews Kristal’s family and friends that she grew up with, some folks from her time before she went to Crestone and then a whole lot of sketchy-ass dudes from Crestone proper. Join the discussion, share your thoughts, ask questions and hear other’s theories. I mean, these guys were ... and Kristal was so beautiful. That Catfish never cleaned his house, and then one day, he suddenly did a full sweep. Thinking that people were following him, I mean, [inaudible 00:07:29] mentioned they had found Kristal's body, he completely freaked out. Payne Lindsey: 14:53 The last time Kristal was seen or heard from was likely July 13th, but Catfish's birthday is on July 21st. Preview the new season. There's no doubt about that. Say what you will about season 2 or neo-hippies, but the fact that Payne was able to get this phone interview with the prime suspect is amazing (or should I say Catfish … Calvin: 09:07 Landon was staying at my house one night and he woke up and he was like, I didn't do it, I know what he said, I didn't mean to do it. That's one of the things that we always though, like maybe she never really left from here, you know? No, he didn't pay her. Honestly, he didn't display any of that, but he does have regret there, which means that his regret is probably due to some involvement in some way. Up and Vanished is an investigative true crime podcast hosted by Atlanta filmmaker Payne Lindsey. Anything to indicate any dental work. Why did Catfish have so many MacBooks? When you drive in that wide open space out there, sometimes you tend to think that you've gone further than you have. In Season 1, Payne tackles his first cold case story, the unsolved disappearance of Georgia high school teacher and former pageant queen, Tara Grinstead. Landon: 18:30 I didn't know this, she tried to help me take the trash off the deck, I was appreciative of that, although you know, I just kind of put two bags together and left cause I'd be back later that doesn't sound weird. So, we drove to her house. Amy Mitchell: 10:46 Is you can't move on because it's unsolved. So, when she got to Crestone, she liked it, she fit in. He's definitely a person of interest, and should be until he's absolutely cleared. Our theme song is Ophelia, performed by Esa Rose. It's a message sent to a Crestone local to a deputy at the Saguache County Sheriff's Department. Otherwise how would you hear these things? NEW SEASON. The 11 … And she said, "I think he did it on purpose.". I will take care of you and I will help you.". I don't come home and turn on the TV. And it's usually the guy that has already killed somebody, and drags them to the bottom of the river and hides them. He's at his dad's, and he has a few friends that he'll land at their place. She was in school. And she started crying. And, she started building herself up. People were trying to beat me up, steal my computers or my phone, attack my Facebook, I lost an email I've had for ten years, I had it through college and everything, I could never get it back, they attacked me with everything they had. She said, "Well, I was feeling strong and I thought I could go see them, and Brian asked to borrow my car. 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