Mike Adams has said before that when a player possesses fast hips they tend to address it on the heel because the hands follow the hips and are left at impact, so the club can position slightly inside its address placement. JBeam ZY-11 10* Basileus Alpha S / Crazy 435ii 10.5* Basileus AAA X It may not be sound instruction, but hey, if it works for you, it works. He suggests a strong grip for these players as well because of that. Therefore, maintain your spine angle throughout the swing and focus on the rotational movement and avoid any unwanted lateral movement. #4 Wood. If your weight moves forward to the toes your body will most likely move forward toward the ball. FAIRWAYS: Callaway Rogue ST 3, 9, 11 Fairway Woods, HYBRIDS: Callaway Big Bertha 3 Hybrid, Rogue ST 4 Hybrid, WEDGES: Callaway Jaws Raw 50 S Grind, 54 S Grind, 58 Z Grind, BACKUPS: Odyssey Toulon Garage Le Mans Tri-Hot 5K Double Wide, MannKrafted Custom, Slighter Custom. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. Place your club down head down at address and set the first tee just inside the heel and the other slightly outside the toe. It could be because of a fault as well, but without video I doubt anything specific would be more than a guess. 4-PW I20 KBS Tour S That way, when the arms extend on the downswing the clubface meets the ball on the sweet spot. Weight too far on toes, seek balance on downswing, dump the wrist and raise handle early to shallow out - leads to toe. If you are searching for more consistency with your driver and you are hitting the ball all over the club face, start working on your strike. I have played basedball and tennis my whole life. Many golf instructors recommend a "fixed" forward ball position (eg. The Rife putter range is every golfer's dream, with an exclusive Rife milled face system (Roll Groove Technology) which offers the optimum in truer roll and putting consistency. The heel is located on the inside of the club head toward the hosel. Tour Issue TM Superfast 2.0 TP 13.5* & 18* UST VTS SIlver 7S The initial direction is left, however, with an open club face the ball slices back toward the middle. From impact into the follow-through, you should feel that your arm is fully extending toward the target as noted in the example above. LuciusWooding Established Member Too busy roasting coffee to play golf Location: Long Island It is the section of the golf club that is farthest away from the golfer when addressing the ball. When the club is inside the line, the golf player is forced to turn moredifficult through the core to get the club moving directly through the ball.That means dynamic engagement of the huge, body muscles. If you make a proper inside-out downswing, you'll hit the ball first. I almost always do it with my driver. That way, when the arms extend on the downswing the clubface meets the ball on the sweet spot. Rotating the entire torso (chest, stomach, hips) can help balance things out. The fix: We adjusted the hosel to add 2 degrees of loft, from 9.5 to 11.5 degrees. The reason this is important is because the more twisted the clubface is at address, the more likely one side would dig into the ground at impact. Instead of creating a new thread I have decided to revive this old one. (We respect privacy and keep all emails confidential). On a scale of 1-10, your grip pressure should not exceed 4. Youve already achieved the correct posture, flex and balance. You beg to differ? A while ago during the switch to in-to-out, I would stand a long way from the ball and stretch to address the ball in the middle of the face, but I gradually ended that to adopt a more 'standard' setup with my arms hanging down from my shoulders. Over the years I have seen many beneficial drills and swing aids, yet one of the most effective golf swing drills is referred to as the Grip Down Drill. Personally, I have used the drill to ingrain the proper movements in my swing since I participated in junior golf over 20 years ago. Start with a seven or eight iron and put it on a small tee. Since I have taken up the game, I have to address the ball off the toe of the golf club or slightly away from it in order to hit the ball solidly. I figured there had to be some mechanical reason it worked or it is related to a fault in either the swing or setup. Titleist SM9 Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* w/Project X LZ 6.0 Paste as plain text instead, That is very interesting concept. The result: The change produced an average of 12 more yards of carry and five yards in total distance. [/quote] AS long as you clear your hips and don't come in from too inside you won't shank. Ball striking was great! [/quote] Square Address At address, a line drawn from the center of the clubface should pass through the center of the golf ball and lead directly to the target. If you tend to hit shots off the heel of the clubface the portion closest to the shaft the solution likely lies in your address position. Practice Sessions. Your link has been automatically embedded. However, this simple drill can transfer over to a chip, pitch or even full swing. 107 January 14, 2012 Iron part starts at :36 seconds. On the other hand, players that strike the ball on the toe can do just the opposite, set up to the inside tee and return the club to the outside tee at impact. 19* Xhot Here's a link to a Jim Flick instructional tip on The Golf Channel: http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.aspx?pa0&select=83. In extreme situations, it can be compared to the motion of chopping wood with an axe. I more sought out the knowledge of the forum to just to know if there was any connection between things. It is that one place on the club face where the ball reacts as intended by travelling straight and long. If you think that your golf ball position should change for each club, then you better read this article! Most golfers understand this simple concept when they talk about their driver, irons or wedges. A shank occurs when the ball strikes the hosel of an iron and causes the ball to shoot off to the right (for a right handed golfer). Consequently, when everything moves closer to the ball you increase the likelihood of a heel hit or shank. Callaway Rogue ST Pro 4-PW w/Project X LZ 6.5 Unfortunately, many players fail to create any positive change in their swing. Thank you! In addition, focus on maintaining your spine angle and follow through. Your coach will stabilize any movement, especially forward movement toward the ball while he holds your head in place. They should be set in a position that allows for the hips and shoulders to rotate freely while keeping you soundly on your feet. I do remember it being to keep the club on a slightly inside swing path. All Rights Reserved. Through two range sessions I've gained at least 10 yards of distance on every iron and they just feel so much better. Welcome! You place the tape along the sole of the club with the line directly in the middle. [quote name='Low Draw' timestamp='1428601313' post='11320299'][quote name='trapsmv15' timestamp='1428593665' post='11319241'] In addition, the swing path creates unwanted side spin that results in a slice. For the right handed golfer to start the forward press, a pressure point in the heal pad of the flat right hand/wrist at address is "pushed" or "pressed" against the bent left hand/wrist so the left . 3. You place the head of your driver gently on the ground behind the ball. If you tend to hit shots off the heel of the clubface - the portion closest to the shaft - the solution likely lies in your address position. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! It should not be supported mostly by your toes nor by your heels. Is there a mechanical reason why addressing the ball off the heel improves contact? But that's solely something I've done before. Since you're a feel player (I'm the same as you in many aspects), perhaps experiment with your weight pressured in different areas of your feet at address and beyond. Standing too close to the ball: From this position youll extend the arms on the downswing past their address position, pushing the club outward and initiating heel contact. Titleist TSR215* w/VA Composites Nemesys 75S Set the driver to the highest loft and you'll see a closed face. If they miss, it will be towards the heel of the club, which produces a stronger shot than a miss towards the toe of the club. Adjustable back and heel weight positioning allows you to . Is there a mechanical reason why addressing the ball off the heel improves contact? Somehow I have made the same experience with my 3 Woods. Likewise, when evaluating irons, Smash Factor can be misleading due to loft or head weight differences between clubs. [/quote] Inside your feet themselves, the bulk of the weight will be found mostly in the middle of your feet. The correct impact will miss the tees and take a divot with an iron. A shank is one of the most frustrating shots in golf. Other AdvantagesThere are other advantages in using this pre-shot alignment. Promotes a good pivot and precise weight transfer, while staying in good posture The drill where we address the ball near the center of the face.and then make a swing and try to completely miss itwith the clubhead passing inside the ball. Vega VM06 50 - 54 - 58 Shimada W Setting up in the correct position will allow your arms the correct amount of space to swing past your body. For straight shots, your stance line should be parallel to the target line. I fight the same thing from time to time. Swing plane is defined as the angle you swing the club around your body. That is, 50% of your weight will be supported by the left foot and the same amount by the right foot. I do with my fairway woods/hybrid sometime. [quote name='Cwebb' timestamp='1428556009' post='11316991'] I figured there had to be some mechanical reason it worked or it is related to a fault in either the swing or setup. He says it helps prevent him from taking the club back on an outside path. My normal miss is toe-ward, so it makes sense for me. Examples of bad positioning would see the buttocks sticking out too much or the back being rounded in an exaggerated fashion. Once you master that, set up normally. Golf Club Fittings. Vice Pro. For a precise target located very far into the distance your feet can appear to be aligned towards the target but ideally they will point slightly to the left of the target, by an amount equal to the distance from your feet to the ball. It is worth noting that the forward weight position, which should be the lowest launching, produced the expected result for only three of our five testers. To start, set your club aside and take a few arm swings while focusing on stretching your trail arm out as far away from your body in the downswing as possible. Fuzzy Zoeller has set up this way for years. I have not seen it for years, but am anxious to head out and try it again. Many players with an over the top downswing will feel a much flatter swing plane when the grip points down the target line. Thanks for the video. Grip the club firmly but gently in order to hit the ball at a good, consistent distance. Hold your club from the side, not . The amount of foot flaring will depend on the preference of the golfer. Make sure to start with the proper grip. We can use the concept to play with, but scaled down to address it off the heel, strike it in the center. Many swings faults are the direct result of a physical limitation in the swing. Set it to the lowest loft and the face will be open. Setting up with the ball off the hosel, hands ahead, open clubface at address. Here is the truth about 'toe up.'. On the other hand, a swing plane that is too flat will position the end of the grip toward the opposite side of the target line. How high or low you want to hit also impacts how you should position the ball. He suggests a strong grip for these players as well because of that. This is due to the PKR2 face design and variable thickness. Many very good players set up this way. Place your hands on the shaft just below the grip. Your feet should be positioned apart from each other in a way that is coherent with the shot at hand. Amateurs that try to swing harder or over correct the motion end up pulling the ball left of the intended target. [quote name='Low Draw' timestamp='1428552175' post='11316763'] He claims that it allows him to swing harder and hit the center of the face instead of the toe because when you swing hard the force pulls his arms into his body a bit. Check your golf ball position. Start with practice swings and slowly switch to half swings. Titleist TS2. He suggests a strong grip for these players as well because of that. Decelerating on the downswing often leads to a shank or heel hit. Forged from 1020 Carbon Steel with a compact player-preferred shape and a stunningly clean address profile Mid-height toe and heel allow weight to be strategically located where you strike the ball for unmatched feel and playability Shaping on the back of the head optimizes CG and MOI while maintaining feel and workabi Down At The Heel Stand your regular distance away from the ball but address it out of the hosel of the club. That is very interesting concept. Irons: Honma TW-X6-11, Wedges: Honma TW-W4 54* / 58* Once the club reaches waist high, your wrists will hinge and the end of the club will begin to point down toward the ball. I was watching a youtube video where Luke Donald plays a match against Mark Crossfield and noticed that Luke address the ball almost of the hosel of the iron. Stand Closer to the Ball On a normal golf shot, you'd take a standard distance away from the golf ball so the sole of the club rests flat on the ground. i'm similarbut rather than shorten the club, lower the lie anglemy lie angle is 1 degree flatit helped trememdously RBallz Tour 10.5 I'm sure this is not an equipment issue as I do it with every club except my putter. (P6 and onward), Aaron Rai - WITB - 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational, Mizzen + Main Baron Chino Trim Golf Pants Bundle, M5 3 wood head, couple of Scotty covers, headcover display rack, One item today - Taylormade M3 9 degree head, 2022 Scotty Cameron Phantom X 11 - 35 Inch, CBX Zipcore 54 and 58 Brand New, Titleist Tsi2 18 Degree Hybrid, Vokey SM8 - 50, 54 & 58. The Enzo is a heel and toe weighted blade putter for stability, with a small slant shaft to provide an unobstructed view of the ball standing over your putt. The 3balls team believes in making golf accessible and enjoyable for all our customers, including those with disabilities, both on the golf course and online through our website. Due to the shape (traditional, not pear shaped like the TS3), the Titleist TS2 driver is a more forgiving option. When I miss one bad my divot almost starts beside the ball like in monte's video. [quote name='Low Draw' timestamp='1428557386' post='11317055'][quote name='trapsmv15' timestamp='1428553741' post='11316867'] If it doesn't the clubs don't fit you. During the backswing, downswing and forward swing the butt end of the grip points down toward the ground. If you can not complete a deep squat than early extension is potentially a physical problem. I find it helps me keep the clubhead on the inside of the ball, promoting an in to out swing path I guess.. a VERY bad sketch of what I mean..:beach: Thanks for the drill. I'm 34, 5'11" 180lbs., about an 8 handicap and have been actively playing for the past 10 years. What's funny is that I'm not reaching out at the ball at impact and my finish is balanced. The only way to redirect the club back on plane is to come over the top, thus causing a shank or heel impact.". When your coach is not around visualize your head placed against a wall so your body can not move forward. The 25 gram tungsten weight makes a significant difference in the way the club feels and performs. You have successfully joined our newsletter. Does it matter? When you grip the club you will form a "V" between your index finger and thumb on both hands. For me it has helped me take it back one piece. It could be because of a fault as well, but without video I doubt anything specific would be more than a guess. By addressing the ball off the heel, your students stand closer to the ball in a more upright position, with their weight better distributed on their feet and with their arms in a more relaxed position. I see a lot of golfers shanking wedges because they drag the club head inside on the backswing. Left Thumb Length: And finally, golfers will have the choice of using a long left finger grip (which leads to an all fingers-grip) or a short left finger grip (which is associated with a palm-and-finger grip). Next, hit a few shots and check where the ball makes contact on the club face. Addressing the golf ball starts with the golf club Now we have the club soled on the ground in proper position sitting nicely on the ground surface and slightly toed up. The good news is a shank is only 2 inches from a perfect strike. The ball will veer off uncontrollably sideways head on to where the golfer is standing at address as opposed to going down the fairway. Most commonly hitting the golf ball on the heel results in golf slices that curve around to the right and into trouble. I have a problem I have been trying to solve for quite some time. To find your proper ball position for hitting irons, again, put your feet together. At my last check he was a +3. He suggests a strong grip for these players as well because of that. 6. The effect of said weight distribution is dramatic. Re-apply the marker on the club face after a few strikes. Kevin I could be wrong I've been wrong before I'll be wrong again poktangju Advanced Members 286 Feedback 21 0 0 Total Rating 100% Posted October 1, 2008 If your clubs are too long, as most woods are today, it's most likely the reason why you're hitting the ground. Where Should The Ball Position Be When Hitting An Iron? I have tried the same thing as the op and have noticed some improvement in contact. Therefore, to fix the heel hit, place a ball on the inside tee and set up with the club behind the outside tee. By correcting a physical limitation such as early extension you will should make better contact with the ball and avoid heel hits. Obviously your partner must stand far enough away so you don't hit him. My miss on the club-face is a toe strike. However, I think I may be compensating for clubs that are over length for me. Maintain better balance with a smooth tempo throughout the swing sequence. A good setup will allow you to start your swing correctly but inversely, a bad address position will hold your swing back. Manage Settings When positioning the ball on a tee, the ball should be held so that the middle of the ball or its equator is as high as the crown of the driver. The club builder at my course is always handing me clubs to hit so I've compared them against basically every other players distance iron on the market, except for the Callaway offerings, and they have performed as good or better than all the them on the Trackman. Note the picture of Vijay Singh at address here from the main website here hitting a three wood with the ball setup well into the heel of the club. . Set a tee up in the ground, set up to the tee as if you were trying to hit a ball on the other side of it. I think it is an address issue but I can't feel right at address when I change it. Mishits on the toe or heel lose about 10% of performance, which is also very . 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At address, the ball will be located in front of you, somewhere in between your two feet. Bend over from the hips not the waist and let the club fall into place behind the ball. The hosel is the small rounded area that connects the shaft to the club face. You've already achieved the correct posture, flex and balance. When I back away from the ball, it gives me the feeling I have room to swing the club through on the downswing. Once you can avoid the tees with a half swing then try a full swing. The face of the club should be positioned directly behind the ball at address. One of best ways to eliminate the outside to inside swing path is to create a flatter swing. Knees should be bent slightly in what could be described as an athletic stance. [/quote] The #1 Southern California Golf Community. You simply feed your subconscious mind with consciousnesscolloquially saying, it's like fighting fire with fire :fool: Ben Hogan always said - if you do not know what to do, go against your natural instinct and you'll be fine, as e.g. 3. Indeed, for shots using a longer club such as a driver, your feet will be spaced out further than they will when hitting a shot using a shorter club, such as a wedge or a short iron. Place a club or alignment stick on the ground parallel to your feet so it represents the target line. I took this method to the golf course for 9 holes and had 7 pars a birdie and a bogey for level par. Many shanks around the green result from a large backswing while the body stands up or moves toward the ball without a follow through. Accessibility is an ongoing effort for 3balls. Please sign-in to your account. Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor. During the swing, the shoulder and hip rotate counter-clockwise, which pulls the club slightly towards the body. The first thing you need to check is the length of your clubs. There are many drills that help eliminate several swing faults. I have not seen it for years, but am anxious to head out and try it again i know luke donald and vijay setup this way as well.i know i hit more towards the heel of the clubface but id like to try this. It makes a figure 8 of sorts. Addressing the ball with the toe of the club By highboy, October 2, 2006 in Instruction & Academy Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic highboy In terms of performance, the Dynapower is better for all swing speeds, whereas the Aerojet is made for higher swing-speed golfers. I have tried the same thing as the op and have noticed some improvement in contact. The target line also helps in the explanation of the swing plane. Club on a slightly inside swing path weight will be found mostly in the of! 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