My sidearm of choice has been the Gen 3 Glock 22 for years. I like the .45 Auto round. Ill take the big 45 any day. The velocities displayed are an average taken from six readings. Neither round is worth anything if you can't connect with your target confidently and accurately. The people are different, the lifestyle is different, the people think different. Bullets which do not trike the target are worthless for self defense and represent a real danger to innocent bystanders. In that case consider a 10mm or .357 magnum (better get a .44 magnum) depending on how big the bears are. However, if you compare cartridges with similar sizes, you may find that the 40.-caliber has comparable speeds. Again, I am not claiming anything is conclusive, but what I can say is that it does not appear that lighter faster bullets appear to penetrate more. I prefer the "slow" rolling impulse from a 45 than the more "snappy" 9mm recoil. Not worth a flip as a carry gun unless one is more Shaq sized than me but for home defense, it works very well. I'm sure he had to have some counseling, but he did his job and survived. From target to self-defense, 9mm is an extremely diverse caliber. The average civilian self defense shooting ends on average between 2-4 rounds. Either one will do the Trick unless it happens to be a VERY RARE ATTACKER who has a super tolerance for pain & Blood loss or is on some kind of super man DRUG!! But no more. Faster bullets are also better for terminal performance. I dont understand why a situation in a street would be different than at home. I bench load and like both cartridges, but I'll gladly carry any caliber firearm for defense as long as it is reliable, concealable and comfortable. I can't think of any tangible way life is better for Americans then it was prior to ww2. Those who prefer lightweight 9mm projectiles enjoy lower recoil; If you select heavier bullets benefit from deeper penetration of the target. As for a Defence caliper the 22 or is the most deadliest cartridge for a handgun at 375 yards I can put right between your eyes or I can put it between your ribs and put a hole in your heart. The 9mm may take between 3 to 6 shots to achieve the same level of neutralization. As a beginner, I'm going hiking with lots of bears. Because if fifty extra FPS is negligible, then having a g34 over a 19 really is for sight radius only and the need for more velocity really doesnt mean much for self defense. Talk about high-capacity magazines! Not a lick of science in this article. If worried about an encounter with bears, I'd take nothing less than 357 Mag. And because 9mm ammo is so relatively inexpensive, it permits its shooter to practice longer and more often. The __gads cookie, set by Google, is stored under DoubleClick domain and tracks the number of times users see an advert, measures the success of the campaign and calculates its revenue. The point that the wound tracks are almost the same according to the 2014 report is very surprising to me and frankly illogical looking at the bullet size, both uncollapsed and collapsed. My military friends please chime in. They aren't like 22lr or up in power like 44mag. This begs the question: is bigger necessarily better? (All listings are fps). Their testing shows seven 9mm rounds that equal or exceed 500 ft lb, with 4 hitting between 511 and 540 ft lb. A couple of things: 1. In the majority of the states, anything more than 2 rounds down range puts in in the pin for excessive force! These are FBI statistics. Well it will make holes in bad guy/rabbid dog I am confident that I can stop attack with .22LR cause I can shoot 8 rounds in about 3 secconds center body mass, palm size group. The 9mm is no pea shooter and a.45 acp is not a one shot giant killer. Time to grow up and recognize the difference between feelings (nostalgia, cool factor, historical value etc) and facts. Im not aware of any Humans that can dodge a round in under 1/2 second. ( Look it up) I'm a person who lives in a rural area, no longer military and not a cop. All bullets kill. The FBI report made it clear that the more consistent accuracy of 9mm in the hands of their less experienced shooters was a factor in their returning to 9mm as their standard handgun caliber. They hardly hit that number. They say those things from a position of authority and impressionable young guys grow up and repeat them decades later. What miffed me most about this test was that the gains across barrel lengths were essentially predictable. Sadly was much shorter than expected. The 45 acp has further developed as has the 9mm still making it a far superior round. All the ballistics from all manufacturers, finally in one place. Because when you are confronted in your living room, at a distance of 10-15 feet, you have to drop him before he can fire or you are going to get hit. With so many differences, its essential that you understand how muzzle velocity will impact performance. I would and have felt safe with one. They cant handle the recoil of a .45 or .308 bcuz many times the 1st time they ever fired a weapon is after joining the military. The fastest muzzle velocity of a commercially produced round comes from .220 Swift and it was clocked in at 4,665 fps. Back in the day, there was a revolver chambered in .600 Nitro Express. just saying. Perhaps they can be banned for possession while in public , I could stomach that. That is just simply a foolish claim to make. Killing the BODY "in this world" is MORE than Sufficient. Second, our judges demand, that each shot has to be beforethought = you can shoot perp once and then you have to evaluate, if he stoped his attack. You had to buy your own oversized grips. But what can you expect when it comes to 9mm ballistics velocity, energy, etc.? The 9mm is well established as a reliable handgun cartridge, but if speed is your goal, the 5.7 delivers faster muzzle velocity. I once read an account by someone who shot an intruder at close range with a shotgun. Muzzle velocity is generally stated in feet per second, or fps. However, many European brands are listed in meters per second, which is abbreviated as either mps or m/s. For consistency, well use fps for the rest of this article like the red-blooded Americans we happen to be! When it happens your mind will likely go blank. With the 14RD+1 extension handle mag that's my HP4573. With a good modern defensive ammo, the 9mm is just as powerful as any .45, just in different ways. An official website of the United States government, Department of Justice. One of the biggest I've seen taken was 465lb. Joe Miller's Navy instructor was just another of those guys who spread myths based in sentimentality instead of facts. They're both about the same energy in most common defensive rounds between the two calibers. That's a reasonable assumption, but it's not the only possibility. Plus, I think the just plain weight of the 45 carries more "oomph". I may not always be there. I may be considered old and not moving with the new trends, and all is good and dandy with the 9 mm and all the new ammo development, but if the .45 was good to stop the japs and the Krouts, in my book it is good to stop anyone who wants to harm me or my family. By the end of the program, 9 out of us 12 participants said they were going to purchase a 45. If you are going to use 5.56 x 45 make sure you get ammo that uses 69 to 77 grain soft or hollow points as they are far more effective than 62 or 55 grain full metal jacket. The one thing I never see mentioned about the .45 acp is that because it's a slower round and over penetration issues drop dramatically it, FMJ is still a very good SD/HD ammo. The 9mm NATO is equivalent to a slightly overpressure variant of the standard 9mm Luger. You never know what you can walk into or what might bust in your door. She is a small gal so it is perfect for her. Ask yourself - if you had to be shot once and you got a choice of caliber, would you choose 9mm or 45? Myself And by that time I lost interest in learning more. COOL STUFF : 25 ACP 32 ACP 327 Magnum 380 ACP 9mm Luger 357 Magnum 357 SIG 38 Special 38 Super 40 S&W 10mm Auto: 41 Magnum 44 Magnum 44 Special 45 ACP 45 GAP 45 Colt 454 Casull 460 Magnum 480 Ruger . But, to add to your argument, I read about an encounter a couple of years back where a large man broke into a house and tried to attack the lady of the house and her child. 45 ACP Ballistics I once knew a fellow how kept a revolver loaded with snake shot on the living room mantle (kids and all) so his wife would have something to fire at an intruder which would essentially scare him off without killing him. My understanding is that most defensive shootings occur at 10 feet or less; probably because of the requirement to hold off until you are in fear of losing your life (home invasions not withstanding). Faster bullets are generally more reliable for downrange shooting because they dont drop nearly as much. Over penetration should not be an issue. It's this ability of 9mm to produce enough energy and not over penetrate which makes me think it competes with the big guys. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. If youre firing 9mm ammo with a pistol caliber carbine, expect to get another 5-10% velocity out of your ammo. 9x19mm Parabellum is by far the most popular handgun cartridge for self-defense in the world. If not please remember Grand Theft Auto is just a video game, not real life. ), .40 S&W (447 ft. My favorite, but too heavy for every day is my 4" 41 Mag Smith. The hydrostatic shock of a .45 is inherently greater than a 9mm. I got rid of my .45 Auto carbine because I found it less effective beyond about 60 yards. .45 ACP and 10mm, both being slower heavier bullets than .357 SIG have greater penetration. In short, we ALL live for ever: the only question is WHERE? I agree with the writer, owning both and applying to individual situations and preferences is right on the mark. Its the gun I run classes with and is setup on my battle/SHTF rig. If you were looking for a typical rifle setup, there appears to be no major reason to go above the federal 16" barrel requirement, unless local laws differ, or whatever the case may be. What they neglect to take into consideration is that in order for a cartridge to meet the testing criteria, the cartridge is required to get a minimum of 12" of penetration. Saying you can stop an attacker faster with a 9mm than a 45 is absolute ignorance. Momentum equals mass times velocity. With having very minimal firearm experience, could you recommend a good choice? IRead more . If you're afraid of what's behind your target you shouldn't be shooting in the first place. That has nothing to do with WWII and everything to do with people not remembering or even wanting reminders of our past to keep them on the right path. BE SAFE!! CONNECT WITH US Mass times velocity is momentum. 9mm vs. .45. Practicing at a public range is not ideal. I (thankfully) also have an overactive amygdala response that kicks in to take over. .45 being a nuclear bomb!!! I'm not making this up. Its a battle-tested gun thats played an important role in American history during the 20th century. Hi John, I enjoyed your comments. I had thousands .45 230 grains hardball and some +Ps hallow points with my standard 1911 when I tested my friend's full size 9mm. It gives perspective from both sides. Remember the reason for the .45. Ive been doing this for 40 years. Two were head shots. I have pistols chambered in .22lr, 9mm Luger, .40 S7W, 357 SIG, and .45 ACP. For example, American Eagle makes 9mm full-metal jacket rounds with 115-grain bullets and 147-grain bullets. I'm going with the 45 because I'm also getting a Henry lever action rifle to match it. Adrenaline is not the deterrent you make it out to be, some people actually perform better when "amped up" so maybe YOU would be would be useless but you have no right to comment on anyone but yourself. We'll cover the pros & cons of 9mm vs .45 ACP, from stopping power to expansion, accuracy, price, capacity, and more. Get that one and the ammo that fits in it. They are often shooting at moving targets who may be taking cover and at the same time the officers are trying to take cover and not get shot themselves (this isn't range shooting). Some people are hard to stop. Contrary to world-wide teaching, not one of us was born (or created) in the "image and likeness of God." Ive never been under pressure but I was shocked at the 20-30% accuracy for LEO. I prefer the .40 S&W. The law enforcement and military need that exact type of round and the 9mm is the perfect gun for those situations. I am a Brit who has lived in the US for fourty years now. The 45 acp has better stopping power. . Best argument I ever heard was, even if your hollowpoint fails to expand, a .45 will always punch a .45 hole. I grew up listening to stories & seeing the animals taken with the caliber. No longer carry a 1911, I now prefer Glock. You think someone is going to outrun your bullet? Youre welcome. In the old days cowboys put 5 rounds in their 6 shooter and money in the last chamber to be used to bury them. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. When the impact speeds significantly surpass about 1600-fps, there is a very definite and measurable decrease in penetration depth. However, there might not be enough time for all that. Kinetic energy. I'm just a regular guy, but shot placement would rule my decision. 30.30 Curious comment. But, because they get less than 12" of penetration in ballistic gel, they are not tested. That is some nice expansion from the 9mm ammo. While there are a number of compact .45 ACP models on the market, as a general rule, you can expect the 9mm to be more comfortable to carry in a holster. Because out of all my handguns, this is the one I'm most accurate with. 9mm rarely reaches major (165PF) unless specially loaded and unsafe if you ask me. ), , and 10mm (650 ft. But as I wrote before, I will be sent to jali for that and I dont like small places :D Your life depends on it. In a 6 feet or less fire fight, if I have not subdued my attacker in 7 rounds. He survived wounds to the chest, back, both arms and both legs. But the .45 Auto does not have the power you are claiming it has. I really admire the professional comments that was written. There is a plethora of loads in both 9mm and .45 that do a better job of expanding and out perform the FBI test rounds in nearly every way. You think that you can outshoot a cop? The best advice when employing these rounds in a true self defense situation is a follows: "Apply judiciously and generously until the threat has stopped". Just feel more secure with that big fat slow round. Yes, that is the case, the .45 Thompson has ridiculous recoil. This will eliminate the threat on fewer rounds. Alexa analytics service - keep track on user informations. If you are in a do or die situation and there is still one bad guy left you need to put down, and you only have one bullet left in your mag. I have used both and much prefer the 9mm to a .45 ACP. We won the Battle of Britain independently of the US but how long the commonwealth would have held out could be debatable. The .380 is obviously light and slow and has the least penetration. Excellent well researched response. Imagine a world where those guys held the power to wipe out the north American continent. Unless there is a study detailing the effectiveness of a round based on kinetic energy, whether or not this is negligible for your purposes is up to you. 357 magnum: the ammunition options are superior for your particular circumstance. (Here are more tips on how to shoot more accurately.). Like working on a car, you have to have the right tools to get the job done. My favorite round is a sig 200 g. I tested this as a defense round and appreciated the impact force on soft targets. haha. Enjoyed the reasoned comments. I also have a bull-pub style shotgun for home defense as well. .45 vs 9mm? One of the GREAT things about FIREARMS in AMERICA is VARIETY!! Great weapon! Sentimental value does not are a round more lethal. However, if trained professionals only have 20-30% accuracy, it's not unreasonable to think that many of us would only have 15-20% accuracy in a self defense scenario. (To be fair, felt recoil is more directly connected to muzzle energy, not velocity, but velocity will impact energy.) God bless. YouTube sets this cookie via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data. My personal preference for a home defense handgun is a full-sized pistol chambered in .45 ACP. Its essentially a 9mm magnum. The HST .45 ACP does it with its massive permanent wound cavity (for a handgun). In church it's a full size 45 at home full size 45 SHTF one for travel one for house to house. It offers a larger magazine capacity given a similarly sized firearm. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Yes Ive used other peoples experiences to enhance my knowledge. Thanks! Type your new password and hit button below to confirm it. Fortunately plenty exists. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Because 99% of people will never fight off a coyote attack let alone see a wolf and if your wandering into areas with wolves carrying a 9mm your pretty stupid as those places also have bears who aren't going to be impressed with the latest plastic fantastic. Perhaps favoring the .45? Thank you. But a 9mm is going to be nearly as effective as a .45 ACP in almost any circumstance if the shot is a hit to the chest or to a limb. The 9mm is more ideal for outside carry. ), .357 SIG (526 ft. Another reason for the swap, one the author forgot to mention was that, for the most part, NATO armed forces had already moved to the 9mm. Any 9mm up to 147 will increase all the way up to 17 none increase beyond that. Their unique testing is quite helpful in choosing ammo and seeing what happens in similar barrels. But the data from all three sources tend to lean towards heavier bullets penetrating more than slower ones, and then tend to be more accurate. .45 is for nostalgia crazed red necks that can't let go of the past. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. If new powders and more advanced bullet designs used helped make the 9mm better then would not the new powders and more advanced bullet designs also then put every other caliber a step up also? Makes me question my choice of 10.5 pistol. Not saying I could do any better but figured it would be closer to 50%. Possibly the only cons of the Glock 30, compare to the Glock 19, being slightly wider grip and more recoil. You may need that Democrat at your side while fighting off the Russians, Chinese, or other foreign enemies. Thats why baseball bats must be held a certain way because of the grain. All this being said, get good with whatever you get, then, just go with. Allow me to offer a suggestion (well not a suggestion as the FBI state's so)..the FBI did not drop the .40 cal due to the improvement in .9mm ammo. Over penetration matters in public too. 230gr X 800fps = 184000 or PF of 184. any lower powder grain ammo with a soft or no jacket on the led.. I would take the 1911 but some folks freak when they open carry. I love Eric's articles. just stick to a pistol and out to a max of 16 P.C.C. When I'm in the woods I use .45 cast. Firing 12 rounds my 9 mm wouldn't penetrate it or do catastrophic damage to it. If you are choosing the 9mm simply because of capacity, you might want to also consider the FN Herstal FNX-45. Europeans don't understand that the Democrats would introduce more gun control, and the Republicans fight against that; that there are both a pro-gun lobby and an anti-gun lobby. 2. Besides, small guns can be easily supplemented with an extra mag or two or a back-up gun. For more than 30 years, the Beretta M9 and M9A1 have been the standard sidearm of the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps. My preference is for the .45 (partly due to the fact that though I've fired a 9mm, I don't own one but mainly through greater familiarity with the .45 & having a decent stock of ammunition for same) but I don't think a person would go wrong with the 9mm & for that matter (even though it wasn't included in the comparison) the .38. In the debate of 9mm vs 45ACP, I choose 357 magnum and 10mm. I do have a CZ 75 and a couple of 9mm Glocks that I carry occasionally. Any reference to "stopping power" in regards to the aforementioned rounds is laughable. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. Did you know Eve was not the first woman? LEOs average 20-30% hits in a gunfight. I settled the issue by having 32, 380, 9mm and 45. Maybe NOT, POF 5PK MP5 The Budget Reverse-Stretch Semi Auto from Pakistan, Ammo InStock: PMC Bronze 223 Rem 55 Grain FMJ Ammo 1000 Rounds $397.00 FREE S&H, Survival Deal: Thyrosafe Potassium Radioactive Iodide Tablets $21.95 FREE S&H, Gun Deals: Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol 12 Gauge Shotgun $949.00 FREE S&H, Brownells Coupon Codes www.brownells.com Updated Monthly. Okay, this isn't very convincing one way or another, so I decided to go to both the Lucky Gunner website and Ballistics.101 for data on the calibers. To actually answer the question of velocity by barrel length for 9mm Luger, and what the ideal barrel length is, namely for something like an AR-15 / AR-9 pistol or SBR, we'll discuss below. The 25 loads tested characterize a spectrum of what is available today at retail and have representative samples from the least expensive range ammo to the most advanced self-defense loads made for the 9mm round. A shift to the right or left could clear the background behind them. We Americans are statistics addicted, any article without tons of statistics will probably go unpublished. pros y contras, el 9mm. I realize these instances are rare but one things for sure i can cut a target in half with rapid shots so easily with a 1022 because of zero recoil i think i could shoot 4 rounds to 1 outta my 45. Bullet drop tends to range from 10 to 12 at 100 yards. We switched to Sigs P226 which was wonderful, but accuracy dropped. If your g it someone in the head, point blank, w/a blank round it should kill them. As if the 9mm is the only benefactor of "ammo advancement", well, I also have the awesome 460 Rowland which overlaps 44 Magnum power levels in a 13 round Glock 21 magazine. I was wondering if Id be losing much by staying with the 4 inch barrel as opposed to the 5 inch. I'll stay with my 45. This way, I can make sure that he'll have some peace when I'm trying to fire some rounds on a practice target. My primary indoor home defense weapons are only a .40 Smith & Wesson carbine and pistols chambered in .45 Auto and .40 Smith & Wesson. .45. The average is 3. I noticed that also that new powders and more advanced bullet designs seem to ONLY apply to the 9mm. The comfort level of a a Colt Lightweight Commander is on par with anything out there, and that design is older than any of us still alive. I agree with what the majority of old veterans say. Anyway my grandfather died before his friend could teach me more. IMHO (other than good social time discussions about guns and fishing tackle) forget the caliber wars. This should bring a target down. He bought 'bigger is better' and eventually converted down to 9mm. You can hit him multiple times and he can keep coming at you. The more energy, the more potential for damage. Preferring a 9mm for higher capacity and easier recoil is one thing. You need fewer rounds to do the job so you dont get excessive force charge , so that rules out the capacity as being a decision factor in the debate . Their testing shows some bullets speed up and slow down and speed up and so on, as they travel up the barrel. And speaking of commentswe had some fun with this video. Probably because it doesn't penetrate as far. Thats where the .357 SIG comes into play. I bet if a poll was done on best semi auto handguns glock would win by a landslide, H&K by far . That is why some like the 9mm short or .380. Not to mention the permanent fragmentation wounds are nasty in themselves. They are way more similar than they are different, and its up to everyone to make the choice whats right for them. Over decades, many Ivy league graduates have gone there and it is the highest standard of law enforcement in our country. My Browning 1911-380 actually has a longer barrel than my Kimber 1911 Ultra CDP. Recoil isnt an issue in a Glock and my G30 has out shot a few custom guns. A couple of days ago I went out to my hunting property to shoot something more than paper targets and compare the rounds. I will always have a 1911, because it is my favorite gun to shoot. Even at 7-8" barrel, the additional length of a suppressor would still allow the pistol or SBR to remain more compact than a 16" barrel. Average taken from six readings going with the 4 inch barrel as to. More often this article like the 9mm still making it a far round... Job done consent for the cookies in the `` image and likeness of God. just! Youre firing 9mm ammo and muzzle velocity 9mm button below to confirm it put 5 in! You understand how muzzle velocity of a.45 ACP lever action rifle to match it the standard... This video counseling, but velocity will impact performance another of those guys who spread based... Preferring a 9mm i ever heard was, even if your hollowpoint fails to expand a! 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